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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-124</link>
		<author>Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-124</guid>
		<description>Thank you for the nice comments on my blog.

I've criticized others but I don't think I've "attacked" anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the nice comments on my blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve criticized others but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve &#8220;attacked&#8221; anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-123</link>
		<author>dave mcclure</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-123</guid>
		<description>@aaron: see my comments on your blog.

while i'd still say i think you're a little too quick to attack others and not tolerate similar critical commentary of yourself, i'll agree i'm perhaps guilty of the same behavior pattern.

if you think i'm attacking as opposed to just criticizing in turn, then my apologies.

- dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aaron: see my comments on your blog.</p>
<p>while i&#8217;d still say i think you&#8217;re a little too quick to attack others and not tolerate similar critical commentary of yourself, i&#8217;ll agree i&#8217;m perhaps guilty of the same behavior pattern.</p>
<p>if you think i&#8217;m attacking as opposed to just criticizing in turn, then my apologies.</p>
<p>- dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-118</link>
		<author>Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-118</guid>
		<description>While you're at it Dave, why don't you make a post on how unprofessional it is to attack readers, given that you've done that on TechCrunch, here, and most recently you've attacked me on VentureBeat when I provided constructive criticism :)

Given that you have more experience than any of us do in attacking actual readers I think you'd be the most qualified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you&#8217;re at it Dave, why don&#8217;t you make a post on how unprofessional it is to attack readers, given that you&#8217;ve done that on TechCrunch, here, and most recently you&#8217;ve attacked me on VentureBeat when I provided constructive criticism <img src='http://techdumpster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Given that you have more experience than any of us do in attacking actual readers I think you&#8217;d be the most qualified.</p>
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		<title>By: Maintaining Professionalism when Blogging</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-115</link>
		<author>Maintaining Professionalism when Blogging</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-115</guid>
		<description>[...] fans or readers, as I have criticized Dave McClure for on both TechCrunch and TechDumpster, is not acceptable behavior from a blogger, ever. I didn&#8217;t learn that lesson until after I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] fans or readers, as I have criticized Dave McClure for on both TechCrunch and TechDumpster, is not acceptable behavior from a blogger, ever. I didn&#8217;t learn that lesson until after I [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-107</link>
		<author>dave mcclure</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-107</guid>
		<description>@bdb: thanks for the thoughtful commentary &#38; feedback :)

re: your idea about posting on the topic of non-anonymity, that sounds like a good suggestion... i'll work on that one.

peace out,

- dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bdb: thanks for the thoughtful commentary &amp; feedback <img src='http://techdumpster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>re: your idea about posting on the topic of non-anonymity, that sounds like a good suggestion&#8230; i&#8217;ll work on that one.</p>
<p>peace out,</p>
<p>- dmc</p>
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		<title>By: bdb</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-89</link>
		<author>bdb</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-89</guid>
		<description>@dmc, I appreciate your fortitude and my original "take" on you was as you come across in your latest comment. You are hardly alone, in this myspace-world, in taking issue with anonymous web entities. Perhaps you could write a real post with the exact opposite opinion? I would like to see Jay try and write a post that counters this one; I can see some of the arguments. 

Jay doesn't get to benefit from this either at a 'reputational' or monetary level, nor deal with the detriment of espousing these opinions at a professional level.

Dave, you are so obviously (upfront) engaged in combining your social and business lives, it is crazy to believe you are approaching many of these companies and ideas objectively. You still have input that is relevant, but please realize and observe the  fact that you are highly influenced by peers (biz and personal) and do not reflect the entire US or internet user base. As a reader/commenter, I am not part of some witch-hunt, just looking for reason, insight, and discussion.

P.S. "drugs" are not bad in moderation. Coffee and soda contain "drugs" (my degree is in chemistry and I studied under Tom Czech (Nobel '89) and an MD, PhD for 2.5 yrs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dmc, I appreciate your fortitude and my original &#8220;take&#8221; on you was as you come across in your latest comment. You are hardly alone, in this myspace-world, in taking issue with anonymous web entities. Perhaps you could write a real post with the exact opposite opinion? I would like to see Jay try and write a post that counters this one; I can see some of the arguments. </p>
<p>Jay doesn&#8217;t get to benefit from this either at a &#8216;reputational&#8217; or monetary level, nor deal with the detriment of espousing these opinions at a professional level.</p>
<p>Dave, you are so obviously (upfront) engaged in combining your social and business lives, it is crazy to believe you are approaching many of these companies and ideas objectively. You still have input that is relevant, but please realize and observe the  fact that you are highly influenced by peers (biz and personal) and do not reflect the entire US or internet user base. As a reader/commenter, I am not part of some witch-hunt, just looking for reason, insight, and discussion.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8220;drugs&#8221; are not bad in moderation. Coffee and soda contain &#8220;drugs&#8221; (my degree is in chemistry and I studied under Tom Czech (Nobel &#8216;89) and an MD, PhD for 2.5 yrs).</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-85</link>
		<author>dave mcclure</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-85</guid>
		<description>@aaron / ajax: i don't claim to be a big deal, nor do i aspire to 2nd-banana to the Arringtons, GigaOms, Scobles, or other Big Deals out there.  i write a blog, i have a few readers (that's me &#38; my mom, maybe a few cats) and occasionally i write something that gets noticed... but not usually.  everyone gets their 15 seconds.

i don't claim to be a great writer (altho my spelling &#38; form is intentional), nor a great designer (i know my use red &#38; bold fonts could blind lab rats permanently).  in short, i freely admit my blog sucks wind, except perhaps for the non-profit microfinance stuff i support.

i came across TD upon seeing links from MyBlogLog, and the first thing i noticed was that i was being called a sycophant &#38; a tool... i can take a joke and/or criticism, but abject name-calling from anonymous bloggers doesn't make for giving me the greatest bedside manner either.  if you feel like i was flaming commenters indiscriminately, my apologies.  some obviously were ripping on me as hard as the original author, perhaps others not.

while i don't mind name-calling in fun or the occasional semi-serious joust, it's pretty obvious that the primary point of this blog is simply to criticize for criticism's sake.  i don't have a problem with that, and i enjoy reading Uncov &#38; Valleywag thoroughly.  i just disagree with combining the name-calling &#38; the anonymity thing.  

if you want to criticize anonymously without falling into the gutter on the name-calling, i get that.  if you want to lambaste someone openly &#38; sign the posts, i get that too.  but forgive me if i feel like the commentary so far has been more unpleasant than logically reasoned.

as i said before, i think the logical part of the initial argument behind calling out my pro-Facebook stance is fair game -- in fact, there were a few back-and-forth parts there that were actual reasoned debate. however, i don't see how you expect anyone to engage in simple debate after LivingInFirstLife's long list of names.  flame inspires flame.

sorry for confusing any 'innocent commenters' with the blogger authors... but again, rather difficult to figure out who i'm arguing with when most folks aren't labeling themselves clearly.  and in fact, except for a few folks like aaron who link to real websites with real names, there's no guarantee the commenters here aren't simply one or two folks masquerading behind multiple IPs.  

again, another good reason for personal disclosure is so people can be counted as real human beings, rather than simply initialed commentary.  

@LivingInFirstLife: you're a reasonably intelligent guy, if perhaps tortured &#38; bitter.  perhaps you just need to get laid more often.  as to 'factually backing up your name-calling', i don't think you've proven anything other than that i have the design sense of your average MySpace teeny-bopper (admitted).  on the rest of the points, your circular logic of using your own labels as justification for further labels is pretty juvenile &#38; about as factual as cheney's tax returns.

if you stay on point, so will i.  but if you resort to name-calling, i'll be right there with ya... bad writing / bad fonts and all.

your turn,

- dmc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aaron / ajax: i don&#8217;t claim to be a big deal, nor do i aspire to 2nd-banana to the Arringtons, GigaOms, Scobles, or other Big Deals out there.  i write a blog, i have a few readers (that&#8217;s me &amp; my mom, maybe a few cats) and occasionally i write something that gets noticed&#8230; but not usually.  everyone gets their 15 seconds.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t claim to be a great writer (altho my spelling &amp; form is intentional), nor a great designer (i know my use red &amp; bold fonts could blind lab rats permanently).  in short, i freely admit my blog sucks wind, except perhaps for the non-profit microfinance stuff i support.</p>
<p>i came across TD upon seeing links from MyBlogLog, and the first thing i noticed was that i was being called a sycophant &amp; a tool&#8230; i can take a joke and/or criticism, but abject name-calling from anonymous bloggers doesn&#8217;t make for giving me the greatest bedside manner either.  if you feel like i was flaming commenters indiscriminately, my apologies.  some obviously were ripping on me as hard as the original author, perhaps others not.</p>
<p>while i don&#8217;t mind name-calling in fun or the occasional semi-serious joust, it&#8217;s pretty obvious that the primary point of this blog is simply to criticize for criticism&#8217;s sake.  i don&#8217;t have a problem with that, and i enjoy reading Uncov &amp; Valleywag thoroughly.  i just disagree with combining the name-calling &amp; the anonymity thing.  </p>
<p>if you want to criticize anonymously without falling into the gutter on the name-calling, i get that.  if you want to lambaste someone openly &amp; sign the posts, i get that too.  but forgive me if i feel like the commentary so far has been more unpleasant than logically reasoned.</p>
<p>as i said before, i think the logical part of the initial argument behind calling out my pro-Facebook stance is fair game &#8212; in fact, there were a few back-and-forth parts there that were actual reasoned debate. however, i don&#8217;t see how you expect anyone to engage in simple debate after LivingInFirstLife&#8217;s long list of names.  flame inspires flame.</p>
<p>sorry for confusing any &#8216;innocent commenters&#8217; with the blogger authors&#8230; but again, rather difficult to figure out who i&#8217;m arguing with when most folks aren&#8217;t labeling themselves clearly.  and in fact, except for a few folks like aaron who link to real websites with real names, there&#8217;s no guarantee the commenters here aren&#8217;t simply one or two folks masquerading behind multiple IPs.  </p>
<p>again, another good reason for personal disclosure is so people can be counted as real human beings, rather than simply initialed commentary.  </p>
<p>@LivingInFirstLife: you&#8217;re a reasonably intelligent guy, if perhaps tortured &amp; bitter.  perhaps you just need to get laid more often.  as to &#8216;factually backing up your name-calling&#8217;, i don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve proven anything other than that i have the design sense of your average MySpace teeny-bopper (admitted).  on the rest of the points, your circular logic of using your own labels as justification for further labels is pretty juvenile &amp; about as factual as cheney&#8217;s tax returns.</p>
<p>if you stay on point, so will i.  but if you resort to name-calling, i&#8217;ll be right there with ya&#8230; bad writing / bad fonts and all.</p>
<p>your turn,</p>
<p>- dmc</p>
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		<title>By: Living in First Life</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-82</link>
		<author>Living in First Life</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-82</guid>
		<description>This is great stuff.  "DMC" getting reasoned down by the readers of TechDumpster.  

Here are the names I called Dave on my original blog post:
- Success (doesn't sound too awful)
- Sycophant (it's true, look at his posts on Facebook)
- Shill (also true, see "sycophant")
- A poor writer (also factually true, see Dave's lack of control over the English language)
- Idiot (also true, see "sycophant / a poor writer")
- Sycophantic fool (not provable at this point, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt)
- Lack of design sense (also true, see your blog / color scheme)

I'm not sure what "name calling" hasn't been factually backed up Dave.  Again, drugs are bad for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great stuff.  &#8220;DMC&#8221; getting reasoned down by the readers of TechDumpster.  </p>
<p>Here are the names I called Dave on my original blog post:<br />
- Success (doesn&#8217;t sound too awful)<br />
- Sycophant (it&#8217;s true, look at his posts on Facebook)<br />
- Shill (also true, see &#8220;sycophant&#8221;)<br />
- A poor writer (also factually true, see Dave&#8217;s lack of control over the English language)<br />
- Idiot (also true, see &#8220;sycophant / a poor writer&#8221;)<br />
- Sycophantic fool (not provable at this point, I&#8217;ll give him the benefit of the doubt)<br />
- Lack of design sense (also true, see your blog / color scheme)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;name calling&#8221; hasn&#8217;t been factually backed up Dave.  Again, drugs are bad for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-81</link>
		<author>Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-81</guid>
		<description>@Dave,

First let me start by saying that I have never heard of you, read any of your blogs, or have any beef with you. If you're a "big deal" then good for you I guess.

Regardless my point was that bickering over the comfortable vastness of the Internet using or real name or a pen name is no more or less cowardly than the other. And to be honest, if you're such a "big deal," what does getting in the face of TechDumpster and its readers accomplish for you? It gives TechDumpster plenty of free publicity, gives their point about you being a tool some credibility (talking trash to READERS of a blog is a pretty toolish thing to do), and gives me something good to read.

You'd be better off cooling your jets and not saying anything at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave,</p>
<p>First let me start by saying that I have never heard of you, read any of your blogs, or have any beef with you. If you&#8217;re a &#8220;big deal&#8221; then good for you I guess.</p>
<p>Regardless my point was that bickering over the comfortable vastness of the Internet using or real name or a pen name is no more or less cowardly than the other. And to be honest, if you&#8217;re such a &#8220;big deal,&#8221; what does getting in the face of TechDumpster and its readers accomplish for you? It gives TechDumpster plenty of free publicity, gives their point about you being a tool some credibility (talking trash to READERS of a blog is a pretty toolish thing to do), and gives me something good to read.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be better off cooling your jets and not saying anything at all.</p>
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		<title>By: bdb</title>
		<link>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-80</link>
		<author>bdb</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://techdumpster.com/2007/08/11/why-being-anonymous-makes-techdumpster-more-honest/#comment-80</guid>
		<description>dave- Just show me the names I earnestly called you.</description>
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